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GOD BLESS YOU ALL! I have been a REGULAR visitor for over a year. I check your site every day. It always has updates (THANK YOU, I know thats a lot of WORK) and useful articles. I just went through your flash animations on the ANTICHRIST and THE MARK OF THE BEAST. WONDERFULLY DONE! Bravo! I have been an SDA since I was 5. Its hard to diseminate all this information to someone that has'nt EVER been exposed to ANY of it before. With your help, I have been granted a powerful tool to help me illustrate the truth!!! THANK YOU ALL so very much!!!


I just viewed your page with all the images about the SDA including the logo. I wrote up an article about the SDA logo and my own observations without knowing someone else was observing the logos also.

Good work. After I wrote the article, someone wrote in and gave the link to their page that linked to yours.

Here is my work on the logo

The Secret Meaning of the Seventh Day Adventist Logos


G'day from down under.

Nic, it was with a welcome enthusiasm that I read your latest blog on the SDA church. Let me appluade your stance on this as I know you see things from a bigger picture than a babe-in-Christ such as myself can see. If not for people like you, people like me would so easily fall into the deceptive snares that Satan has strategically placed throughout protestant Christianity.

Its been 14-months now since turning to Christ & finding a Sabbath keeping church here in Sydney. As a total begineer, the local SDA church seemed the most logical choice at that point. Now, into my 2nd year I have come to see more than a few 1-day-a-week SDA Christians whom I might suggest could be easily caught up in the Roman deception that has infiltrated the SDA annals. Example being a recent bible study pre-church on Sabbath where I mentioned something about the "Roman beast" from REV-13 & half the study group harped up in protest suggesting its now Islam. What a shock! Humilty prevented me from shouting out "Read your Bibles people & find in scripture where the beast changed from Papacy to Islam"


Wow!!! I thought the conference was connected with the Vatican but I did not know that right now at this moment they are totally connected with them. Thank you for informing me. That means if a person go to a conference seventh-day adventist school. There is a high chance that they will get the mark of the beast. I love what you are doing. When I think of this site I think about what Jesus said unto his disciples- don't remember the exact words. But he said to them something like this: ' That if you want to be saved then your righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees'- In our case the General Conference. And you mentioned that they are kicking people out for preaching present truth. I believe you, because I used to purchase materials from a ministry in California (SDA) they were with the G.C. but the G.C. never kicked them out because of the money they were bringing in but after a while they got kicked out. This happened for an unknown reason. Keep doing the good work. This thing is serious!!!


Have you read the latest Adventist World? Bill Johnnson is telling us that Allah is just another name for God. I was bothered by this when I first heard some man from Global Mission talking on LLBN. He said the Koran and the Bible were basically the same book.

How can they say Allah is God? Allah is Satan. Allah is the god of Catholicism. I can't believe that the SDA church has come this far. It's no wonder they don't want us referring to ourselves as SDA'S, but rather Adventist. The day the church decided on that terminology is the day it decided to turn to the east and worship the sun.

The Seventh-Day in our name shows we honor the Creator, by not being ashamed to pronounce the Sabbath of his creation. Now when asked if they are Christians these Adventist's tell the Muslims that they are not even Christians, they are Adventists.

They give the excuse that the Christian name has negativity associated with it. Saying they are thought of as wine bibbers, adulterers and criminals. Funny how I don't get that idea. Even the Christians of different faiths here in America have the connotation of being more moral than the rest. And this is considered an immoral country.

It is also contradictory, because Catholics call themselves Christians, and the Muslems have no problem erecting their Mosques right across the street from Cathedrals in many countries. If the name was so offensive then why do they build right next to Catholic Churches?

So now the church tells us to deny Seventh-Day Adventism due to its offensiveness, and deny being a Christian because it offends, but just be called Adventist. Not only that we are now instructed to call God...Allah.

We are doing all the compromising to call what they call , spreading the gospel? What Gospel? By accepting Allah we deny Christ as God. Muslims think him only to be human and we are not trying to straighten them out. Mrs. White said we should never take down our banner, being worried about offending. The truth cannot be compromised.

Whats next.......go along with the Sunday Law? I wonder how much we are active in Europe on this issue. Probably not at all.


You missed something in evidence in
pictures number 54. I feel it is worth noting. Notice the girl on the left. Look at the position of her fingers. That is a famous Catholic Hand Gesture. I forget what it means, but the Pope does it all the time and it is also seen in many Catholic Images of Christ. I am not sure the girl is aware she is doing it or not.

Also I just finished reading the " Neutering of Adventism" by George Knight. This man gets the 1888 message all wrong. He actually see's it as a positive time for the SDA movement, saying we finally got on the right track. He doesn't even mention that the church rejected the 1888 message, or the fact that Ellen White came away from the meeting very upset.

He also says the Sanctuary Message is basically misapplied. He makes mention that if it was so important than why didn't the Bible Writers get it right. He says they even have the Alter of Incense in the wrong compartment. What he does not reveal is that the Modern Bible translators put the Altar of Incense in the Most Holy. The kJV has everything where it belongs. He actually supported the KJV without realizing it.

While he has some good things he has written in this book, the problem occurs with the skewing of the truth that he tries to impress upon those that read his book.


I was shaken up but the stuff I read on your page. However I am thankful you wrote what you did because it is better to be informed than ignorant. I saw the clip you did on YouTube on the Allah sermon by Pastor Dwight Nelson. Then one day later I was watching Hope TV online on last Sabbath and I saw the same pastor s conducting the Holy Communion and to my horror he used the word Eucharist to describe the service. After seeing the Allah clip, this came as double whammy to me. I think the LORD wants me to be more aware of what is going on in the SDA church and He is allowing information to come my way to do just that. I do not agree with your opinion that the church as a whole has apostasy because there are too many faithful people in our church serving the LORD. But I do agree with you that there is wrong going on. I will continue to read and share with I learn with my brethren.


Dear Brothers and Sisters: Please keep up the good fight. But I have a challenge for you. Most SDA members never seen these documents. Please call the Secretary of States Office of Michigan. Ask them what year did the General Conference of Seventh Day Adventist Association incorporate themselves with Babylon. They should tell you over the telephone. Please request a certified photocopy of this legal document. In these papers you will see exactly who did it, along with the articles of incorporation. This was done after Prophetess E.G. White wrote all her original books. People focus on 1888 the rejecting of the "Righteousness By Faith Message" but the leaders placed turned the church from remnant, to apostate in the year they filed it with the state, breaking every commandment of God. If you don't know American Civil Law then after you receive the papers please take them to an attorney. Remember Joh 8:32.

May God bless you.
Pastor WIll

Brother Nic:
How are you doing, we listen to your
radio always and the sermons. God bless you and keep you safe you and your family. the camp meeting that you talk about , is happening always her in British Columbia, drums drinking and other things that we are forbidden to go near, it is a special tent for them. That was in 1997. where we stopped going to the camp all together. and the church, but the truth was not yet clear to us till 2007, and by chance no body told us . I believe it was the Holy Spirit that guided us to the site. (Let there be light ministry) that believe on the sanctuary message. It still puzzling me how it happened. Hiam was first and then I accept the message.

May the Lord help us to be faithful to the end.

Your brother and sister in Christ

Hiam & Werner

Hi. How are you doing? I recently stumbled on a quote wherein Ellen White shows that the church can become Babylon. Here it goes: The brethren in Ohio have been encouraged to look with distrust and suspicion at those who are in charge of the work at Battle Creek, and have stood prepared to rise against positions taken by them. Brother J has taken his position firmly, without regard to the body. He has imagined that evils would arise from headquarters that he must contend against. He placed himself in array for battle when there was no fighting to be done. He planted himself firmly to resist something which never arose. Many of the brethren in Ohio cherished the same feeling, placing themselves in opposition to something that never appeared. Their warfare has been unwise. They have been ready to cry out, Babylon, until they are a complete Babylon themselves


I was reading "Keeping the Sabbath Holy" and wondered, should I be in church, an SDA working in the treasury department in my SDA church, counting money and making sure the account is balanced, getting headaches and sitting there for sometimes 2 hours during Sabbath balancing thousands of dollars from the churches tithes and offering, is that keeping it holy. I was told I'm doing the lords work. Or maybe I should have a better attitude about it! I don’t know! I am a newly convert, since 2008. I was raised by my grandmother who is a Pentecostal Sunday worshiper. So the Sabbath is all new to me, but I know Saturday is the day of rest, and I really want to do the right things on the Sabbath.

Thank you for your work and videos, I’ve learned more from your videos then in the church!

Thank you so much!

Thanks Nic, I thought as much.

Listen, I really have to tell you something that happened yesterday.

I shared with a friend who is in the SDA church, this present truth about coming out of Babylon. She used to be a nun! Well, she is kind of receptive, but says that God would not make it so obscure.After talking with her, I was a little discouraged. So I went back to where I last saw the light. I was reading all day on SDA apostasy.
Right before I had to leave for work, I found a quote:

"We have enjoyed great light and many privileges. Shall we turn away from all these blessings, and sacrifice the peculiar, holy character which should distinguish us as children of God? If we thus slight the mercy of God, the judgments against Capernaum will surely fall upon us. Our punishment will be heavier than if we had not enjoyed so great light. Thus the warnings, reproofs, and counsels, which, accepted and obeyed, would bring us untold blessings, become a curse when they are rejected....

Stay with me now!

I've told you before that my dad was a reformer. He was my spiritual rock. I've been a little disappointed that he did not know about seperating completely. Shortly before his death, he woke up from a nap and was very distressed. He said "Blessings were coming out as cursings" I said "Daddy what do you mean?" He said "There was a vacuum in the room and blessings were coming out as curses!"Well, I did not know what that meant, but I told myself to never forget it and maybe it would mean something later.

It meant something to me today! I started laughing and crying when I realized I had just had a message from God through my father, who did not know what it meant, and has been dead for five years!


To God be the glory!

Praise the Lord for your mighty witness for the truth as it is in Jesus, I really would like to have your "Roman SDA FLASH" to show SDAs as we travel around to try and wake them up, God Bless you,

Pastor Graham B.

Thank-you, Thank-you, Thank-you for exposing the apostasy in the corporation. Everything is in an easy to find format. I like it that all the information is in one place. Keep up the good work. Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear will see and hear the truth and act upon their convictions.

God\'s blessings,

I was so thankful for the time I spent on your web, it is amazing to notice how much is passing without us realising that all in all everything has changed hands and no longer the voice of God but that of the devil. Please keep this work forward.we stand with you in raising the awareness that is needed for us to hasten the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Please, I will appreciate if you can send me your news letter timely. thank you in advance may the Lord help you gain more courage to stand up to these evils.
bye for now

In searching for fellowship after years of trying to find a church (denomination) it has become incredibly difficult to know what to do.  Having just met and been influenced by powerful methodology, that in itself is meant to be deceptiive I became a part of the sda church in a small town.  However, I started after settling in to a move and starting a new job I have been decieved.  I opened the loma linda site and saw the upside down cross prominent, I saw your site, I studied others surrounding the convtravery that has presented in the history of the church.  I saw where a 25 year lawyer, roman catholic was entered into the pope\'s loyal order.  I studied more about the celtic influence and see the association with many of the sects orders and societies that are abominations.  My pastor has called, putting extreme pressure to meet and discuss.  He says he would walk away with me in a moment if I can sit down and prove it out to him.  I have spent hours researching, pro and con and have no other alternative than to ensure my name is not on any list, that I am removed from membership.  The fact still remains what is a person to do.  After 25 years I am to the point that it just seems impossible to find the joy of being a christian!  I look forward to hearing from you, there is so much more but quite frankly I don\'t even know who you are ?  In desperate love of Christ, I wait.

Dagmar S

I knew something was wrong but could never imagine we have gone this far!

My husband and I are very disturbed by what is happening within the SDA church, and I have been finding articles on the internet to back up what we have been hearing.  The new Celebration churches are absolutely apalling........plus everything else that is going on.


Words cannot express to you how shocked I have been as I read your website.  I have seen some of these things before, but never has the research been so thorough, and the evidence so convincing.  May God continue to have mercy on us.

Mervyn C.

My whole life I have wondered what the truth was.  As a child I was raised in the SDA faith and saw much good come to me and my family from the church.  I was happy when I was in the church.  As I've progressed with time, I have seen for myself the openness of the church to the world and it's willing to bring the outside world into the church.  This saddens me.  I've read only a little bit of this site and of the www.remnantofgod.org site and what I've seen makes sense.  Not only that, but when I do the research myself it all comes together.  Please pray for me and my loved ones as I continue my journey in God\'s Word and pray that we are able to move forward in Christ through these last days (the final hour).  I know it's here.  I know it's upon us and I also know that it\'s time for us to speak out to the world.

Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart for putting this site together.  It's a blessing from God.

God Bless You,

Yes, your site has many truths.  As I read topics on your site, I am glad it is here.  I will share this site with others who are trying to be faithful to the Friday/Saturday Sabbath.  I agree that the SDA faith has strayed away from it\'s original purpose and the church is not sharing the gospel truths commanded by our Lord and creator Jesus Christ.  I belong to a group called:\"The Remnant Church.  We study the bible and study the 1800 bible study lessons.  We all had a one time come out of our community church because they have left the truths and purpose of the people of the bible as once SDA\'s was once called.  Anyway, we use community access tv to promote the three angel message and what we believe about the Sabbath and Adventism.  I believe you could have companies of our faith throughout our nation and the world this means to share the true message...hurry!  It has been over 160 years already and soon Jesus will return...hurry!

Les A. Sr.
State : HI

I've been reading this website for a few days sometimes till the wee hours of the morning.
I wept when I realized I had to leave my church. But I am not leaving Christ.

I am a fouth generation adventist. I never knew we would have to leave. My dad might have. He's been gone for 5 years. He had the gift of prophecy as do I. He felt the call to be an Elijah and a John the Baptist. He spoke out about sin in the church all the time. He was physically thrown out of the church several times. Later, he was assaulted while in a wheelchair!

It took me reading your website and sdrvoice.org for awhile to be convinced that our church is Babylon. It was the quote from the Bible Commentary that finally did it for me. Thank you so much for being a vessel for God!

There seems to be some receptive people in my current church. I will try to reach who I can. Do you have some written material you could send me?


Sarah L.

The Vessel

It was a ship whose origin came about, not with out its priceless struggles. Whose founders constructed its design and framework from a different set of blueprints then the ones deemed best by designers of an opposing force, and so at the very onset the fathers commenced their fight against the current tide of popular belief. The prestigious men of the day mocked the tiny group that gathered to study the blueprints for themselves. Page by page, forward and backwards the company poured over the written script for signs of any flaws, and assurance that this particular set of detailed instructions, would ensure a sound and solid seaworthy ship. Early on the founders realized that compromises upon any point or aspect set forth in the blueprint of truth would result in a faulty ship unable to sale the open seas. Their diligent quest for faultlessness within the blueprint was rewarded twofold in the discovery of a lesser light and in the acceptance of their re-discovered Master Conductor. Shunned by society for breaking and not backing up popular traditional methods of ship construction, the founding fathers were not only guided by the Master Conductor, but strengthened and encouraged by counsel from the lesser light, there to direct their minds back to the Conductor whenever enticed to wander astray from the path He had laid out before them, or tempted to forget that the real abode for their Master was inside the temple of their hearts and minds.

Construction time soon commenced. Careful study and time went into the selection of the wood, it needed to be perfect. The wood once selected was then hand hewn, and crafted to fit the newly acquired mold. Pitch was applied, and then re-applied; it was a necessity for the ship to be sound and water tight. The pillars of support were raised steadily and methodically one after the other. These pillars would be of utmost importance to ensure the stability and safety of such a ship from the storms of the sea, and a safeguard against corruption from the influences of surrounding worldling ships. The decks were sanded and smoothed, the fog horn tested and proved. A pure white sail was lifted high at the bow and at the stern, the color revealed to the entire world its stand. The construction took some time as most good projects do. The days turned to months and the months into years, and the founding fathers sought their well deserved rest. New enthusiasts took over the leadership roles and the project as well as time, continued to roll on by. Slowly but surely was seen an increase in the numbers who believed the blueprints validity. And as the believers multiplied day by day they consequently boarded the now completed, aggrandized ship; built off the truth they believed in.  

In the beginning there was seen in this ship a distinction, in not only the lives of its passengers, but also in the path in which it choose to sail. The senses of the passengers were alert; they had studied the manuscript individually and shown themselves approved. They leaned not on the mini captains, whose main duty was to point to the Master Conductor, and proclaim what they had learned to the surrounding ships, but choose instead to place all trust and confidence fully in the Master Conductor and diligently follow the guidance from the lesser light, and sacred blueprint. There were sentinels for the day, and watchmen stationed during the night on continual guard against the
worldling ships, that had not forgotten the day when a small band had stood up against their beloved traditional values of structured ships; for a model of a different sort. History, unfortunately, has an uncanny way of repeating itself; and just like Israel of old, when the men who had beheld the miracles of the Master, preformed within their lifetimes, died off, there arose children of a new generation. A generation of passengers who did not recall the way they were led and directed in the past but instead, converted to the new order of things, through this conversion lost their first love.

What had started out as a pure and undefiled ship, whose occupants’ main purpose was to continually strive towards the perfection as outlined in the blueprint, and to reflect a mirrored image of the Master Conductor in their own lives, now had taken a 360 degree turn, heading down the same path that it had been attempting to avoid for so long; until now. Indeed the enemy had invaded the night. Change came subtly for the invaders were keen. They had bided their time wisely, studying, watching,…waiting. Their timing was perfect. The pillars crumbled fast, the blueprint- now considered a good story book of near fables, closer to fiction then fact, sat unused, accumulating dust on many a coffee table, the lesser light undermined tossed into nigh obliteration.
But the crowning act that that made the invaders conquest assured was no, not the books of a new order, though they were devoured and its messages accepted without debate, nor even the new revised versions of the blueprint, that accomplished its feat of confusion between pure undefiled truth and truth mixed with error. It was through the new and improved sound that resounded throughout the cabin of the ship that brought the biggest glint of evil glee into the eyes of the successful invaders. The beats were placed strategically in spots, whose affects could not been seen at the surface. But day by day as they persistently beat against the one door that could bar their way, the passengers’ minds became numb by its hypnotic affect and the resistance of the will gave way to the overpowering sound. Their minds muddled and confused by the rhythm of the strings and beats combined, the feet were the first to find detachment; they now tapped and followed time. The hips were next to follow suit in a swaying all its own. The passengers heads now bobbed, their hands upraised; their body was not their own. For the spirit of the new age sound had taken its rightful control. The companion of songs to the blueprint whose compilation began in the early fathers age, were forgotten; ignored for the slides upon the screen. The hands, of course had to be free; to move as the invaders spirit would lead. Gone from the passengers was their ability to interpret the blueprint line by line; their first love was lost and in its place was found an eager acceptance for messages of a new sort that were only waiting and biding their time.
 With barely a ripple of complaint within the waters the ship had shifted directions and changed its course. The transfer was complete, the infiltration achieved, the ships allegiance was now sworn to another.

If the passengers of the ship had thought to seek after their true conductor within the confines of the ship, his presence therein they would not find, for the sail now flapping in the breeze was not pure, undefiled white, but a tainted crimson sail, tattered and torn. But the thought to seek help was not one that occupied the passengers’ minds at present. In
fact the idea that they might indeed be headed blindly towards destruction was the furthest thought from their minds, as they drank more heavily the wine from the golden vessels held tight within their grasps. A fog of stupor fell across the whole of the passengers aboard; the wine was achieving its desired intoxicating affect. Now books of a new order had taken the place of the once sacred blueprint; authors from worlding ships were now upheld and the doctrine from their writings proclaimed. But the crowing achievement that made the invaders smile  In this stupor they beheld their old clothing;  unfit for the extravagant lifestyle they now boasted. Ingeniously, the mini conductors who, had risen to take what they deemed their rightful place of authority and leadership in the absence of the Master Conductor, suggested the plan of trading with the neighboring ships. The few who did protest immediately retracted their statements that went against the popular teaching of the day and ended up fitting snugly back into the mold. While an even more select few, who had ever so often dusted of the blueprint to read again from its precious truths, were able to recall that compromises upon any point stated within the blueprint meant disaster not only as individuals, but corporately as shipling brothers as well. Thus they refused to conform and were consequently kicked out of the ships abode.  

The trading commenced with fervor and with it a muddling of the line of distinction between individual ships occurred. When once only white was the garment prized; now purple and gold took over to satisfy the passenger’s present desires of self fulfillment for the present. Then came the day when the time was right, and the new message came into play.

On a certain day of the week the ships would halt their trading of goods, for a day of trading of one’s mini captains and their messages. The captains from the worldling ships came aboard with pomp and style and gave their message of a new kind: “Our ships aren’t as different as we once thought..” said the captains with a grin. “Come let us reason together, let us focus on points that we have in common, and not our minute differences that we once argued upon. Let bygones be bygones, let us now stretch our hands across that gulf, and heal the breach within our past.” Look, we each have a sail- and each have a ship, our paths can now converge, our ships can now unite. May we rouse together underneath a common banner of unity within our diversity, so that we will continue to see that peace and safety that is only found aboard the ship.” Such were the messages and beliefs that the ship acquired along with her new gaudy garments. The passengers now content in their padded seats, nodded their heads robotically; the new message had made its debut. Their minds so befuddled by the spiriters song, the passengers were not shocked by such a message proclaimed by the worlding ships, for it was, in fact, the very same message that their own mini conductors had pushed through the beat within the song.. As long as the only messages their passengers heard were ones of peace and safety, love and unity, and increasing the numbers; the mini conductors were content to sit back and enjoy the ride. However, unbeknownst to the numb and cloudy minds of those aboard the Apostate ship the Master Conductor had not been idle in his absence. In His love for the disillusioned individuals aboard the ship, the beloved Master had raised up a remnant that would accomplish the work once committed to the
passengers aboard the, now sinking ship.  He would not allow the ship to go to her final destruction with out a final loud cry, nor the preaching of 3 irrefutable messages.

The loud cry came from outside the realm of supposed safety within the ship. Slowly and quietly at first the messages were proclaimed; the remnant being dispersed throughout the world. Then faster and louder the cry is heard as they themselves realize the shortness of probation and a sense of urgency as never before; until the cry  resounds, going out to every nation, kindred tongue and people.

The remnant proclaim: “Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters…Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication…If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. HERE IS THE PATIENCE OF THE SAINTS: HERE ARE THEY THAT KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THE FAITH OF JESUS.”  { Holy Bible: Rev 14: 7-12}

“And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird…Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.”{Rev 18:2-3}

The remnant having their feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace, and having clung to the lesser light that enabled them to understand the blueprints prophecies; proclaim also the enlightened truth verbatim:

“If the church of God becomes lukewarm, it does not stand in favor with God any more than do the churches that are represented as having fallen and become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird. “{Letter 35, 1898,P.6-7}

“We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon of allowing our churches to become corrupted...”{Letter 51,9\\6\\1886}

“The world must not be introduced into the church, and be married to the church, forming a bond of unity. Through this means the church will become indeed corrupt and as stated in Revelation, a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.”{ TM P. 265}

“The enemy of souls, has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh Day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result?- The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that has sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built upon the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure. { Letter 242, October 1903 & Special Testimonies, Series B # 7, P.36-42}

At this the majority of passengers and all the mini conductors became outraged at those proclaiming the warnings, which preached the undeniable truth from the lesser light, and blueprint; whose instruction they had firmly rejected. Through the fog that clouded their reasoning the passengers heard the definition of the Masters true ship:

: “ I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine…and I lay down my life for the sheep..and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”{John 10:14-16}[Fold; translates flock: see Strongs Concordance, #4167]

Having been told that the Masters one true church was their structured ship the passengers gaped at the thought that  … “the flock of my pasture, are men..” { And ye are my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, saith the Lord God. {Ezek 34:31}

“…For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell IN them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.”{2Cor 6: 16}

What?! The Masters true ship not a structured ship? But a people? A,… a remnant? … “But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in sprit and in truth.” { John 4:19-24}

 In confusion, limbo and rage the deceived turned to their mini-turned master conductors for guidance. The mini-masters ran frantically throughout the ranks of the ship proclaiming “The ship will see you through. Though she may appear to fall; stay on board she will see you through the storm, stay; your salvation is at stake, the master will

not leave the ship, to leave is to turn your back on the master, and salvation.”  Having been taught such a message from their infancy that the ship was the masters true ship; the
familiar line rang throughout and the confused were now “Straightened”, the in limbo “converted” and the in raged “pacified”. Thus the noose was pulled another notch tighter around the minds of those aboard.

There were, however, a select few that upon hearing the messages proclaimed, the plain, un-perverted truth of it cleared the tainted miasma that surrounded the wills of their minds. And together they joyously united with the remnant in heralding the warning cry. The new believers could not be silent; the truth had set them free, salvation was contingent upon ones relation with the Master, not upon staying aboard a sinking ship. Upon seeing their acceptance, the mob now frenzy with anger, rushed at the new converts who had choose to believe in the truths of old; surrounding them on every side. Trusting in their Master each believer found a three fold cord; immediately let down at their side. Instantaneously they clung to it; and found it grew larger and stronger with the more weight and trust they put on it. And as the circle around them tightened until only with whispers were they able to proclaim the truth, their ropes began to raise slowly but surely, higher and higher until they found themselves lifted out from inside the ships structure, out of the waters that had confused, unto solid ground, and a path whose direction was the exact opposite from course the ship now held. The path they were set down upon was narrow and almost completely vertical.. There were rocks and all sorts of shrubs that seemed from a distance to be insurmountable, but as they advanced, with total assurance in the one holding the rope, they found the obstacles as mere pebbles.
 From here they were able to see the summit upon which all the remnant were surmounting. As they reached the base of the mountain they found a sign that read: “Salvations Peak”.

Tears of joy run down their faces as they too commence the climb up Salvations Peak, their old man dead, now a new man in its stead climbs up the narrow path. The remnant will never cease to proclaim the truths that set them free, the truth that saved and rescued them all from the pit of miry clay; may this continue to be so until the day when the words are spoken: “He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and my enter in through the fates into the city…Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. {Rev 22: 11-14, 20}  

When I lived in NJ, I occasionally attended the Lake Nelson Seventh-Day Adventist church.  One December (1994 or 1995), I was shocked to see pointsettias and holly decorating the narthex and equally aphalled to hear the congregation singing "Silent Night" and "Oh, Little Town of Bethlehem," both of which any former Sunday worshipper would recognize as "Christ-Mass" carols. 

In Addition, two of the deacons sent me a copy of "The Great Controversy" with a "Happy Holidays" note in the front. This "church" is located in Piscataway, NJ.

Elisha B.


I knew something was wrong but could never imagine we have gone this far! What are we supposed to do in such a situation?



I apologize if I have offended you.
I know it's sort of unusual for me to turn right around and say this, but I have to know more...

When did this happen within the Seventh Day Adventist Church? 

Do you still go to church? If so, where do you go?

I guess I always thought that they would be my last resort, because I know they showed me many truths, but now I feel as though I'm left with nowhere to go. I know that the SDA church always said they were the remnant church, but who will fill that position now? Or is it diverse peoples?

In need of help...

Interesting site and so is the one I link to this one from, http://www.remnantofgod.org/ We from time to time worship down at the local SDA church and are members but choose to worship also with other sabbatarians that aren\'t with the SDA church.  There are many sabbath keeping saints out there, alot independent and home churches.  But I have a question.  Several from the local church, older members, have told me in the past that when Sunday becomes the norm for worship that Ellen White said in her writings, and they never would tell me which book, but that she said it will be okay to worship on that day and just worship at home in secret on Saturday.  Would she have said such a thing?  If so that is compromising, sounds like people would just be trying to save their flesh cause otherwise they\'d stand out against the apostasy.  Also we\'ve noticed this little church changing throughout the years, we\'ve known them for 12.  Of course as the older ones die off we see the younger don\'t really stand for the sabbath any more.  Others have told us of celebration type services that are coming to their churches and some have even talked about other churches studying the Purpose Driven Church book which is ecumenical at best.  Just wondered though if Ellen White ever taught that it would be okay to have Sunday worship.


My Response

Blessed be the Name of Yahweh!! 

I am glad that a group of which I am a part, noted this URL, and I came to see it immediately!

Brothers & sisters:  I am sure that the time for our turning away from a group which has chosen to leave the Lord Jesus Christ out of her work [He has left the General Conference, due to unrepentance], has come, and I am only too happy to find a site which speaks the words that I have been speaking to a few, but afraid to speak en masse, for fear some will leave Christ behind with the denomination!

You know exactly what I am talking about, because you too have been in this position.  It is time that we continually ask for the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ to be the One Who is in charge completely and always, as we seek the Latter Rain, which is surely not going to come upon a denomination that is becoming steeped in materialism, and unrepentance.  Most Sabbaths I stay at home, and am blessed with the Presence of the Spirit, and I am no longer ashamed of it, although at first, I was spiritually weak, and unsure what to do, because of the sinfulness that I saw being preached in the Review, and the lack of understanding in the ministry, of the most important aspects of our faith.

What has happened to the beauty of the first part of the First Angel\'s Message?  Is not the everlasting gospel, that which always comes first, that \"the power of God unto salvation,\" can bring about a change in the life?  If this is not done, then we fill our denomination with people who have not the Holy Spirit, and thus, per capita, North American churches are carnal, \"yet in their sins!\"

I too am a sinner, but I know I have been washed in the blood of Jesus, and DAILY, I reach for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus -- not only on the Sabbath day! 

Our preaching is vague, and not according to the Scriptures!  We need Spirit-filled preaching that brings forth the beauty of Scripture, and speaks to us of a people who are so close to Jesus, that in order to see them [us], one has to \"look higher!\"  Although I am far from being like the wonderful Savior of my soul, I will not be among those who are like the world, but I desire more than life itself, to be among those not afraid to see Jesus come in the clouds of glory, tomorrow!  I long to be among people who feel the same way, and this is obviously seen and heard in their words and actions.  Always, I would be like Jesus!



Dear brother,
thank you for putting together a very informative site about the apostasy in our church. That's what I have been looking for for some time. There are many sites with pieces of information but here it is all in one place. Please keep revealing the truth. I hope it will open the eyes of the honest adventists.

I have one request to you. Would you be able please to send me the source files for the Roman SDA presentation? I would like to translate it to my language so people in my country can also learn all the sad truth and hopefully awake. Please let me know.
God bless you.

WOW!  A masterpiece!  The Lord has truely annointed you to expose the on going corruption in our (the) SDA church.  I praise the Lord that the Hispanic people are aware of this.  I shall one day send you my testimony of pain and enlightenment as to how, once filled with the Holy Spirit, I sought truth and how it led me to Sister White's writings.  It has been 15 years now. 

In His Service,
Sister Cata

I was given a Cd by someone with whom I am no longer in contact and I the messages sound similar to what you are proclaiming on your site, ie that the SDA church is Babylon.  The arguments seem quite convincing.  My question is if I were to leave the SDA church what should I do, where should I worship, where do I pay my tithe etc.  Any help or advice you are able to give would be very much appreciated.  I am truly seeking for truth and looking for answers.  I used to attend the Gazeley Bible Fellowship here in England which offered the opportunity to hear present truth but the conference church hammered it until it successfully drove it into the ground. 

Yours in the name of Jesus.
Lorna D.

MANY MANY more coming soon!



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